The fact is since Tiana is the only black Disney princess, she is representing the whole by herself. I can already imagine the hilarious dialogue she would come up with while meeting families. When you wish upon a [...], [...] step closer to a fat, queer, disabled princess—or at least a Black princess devoid of racial stereotyping? So, looking for the answer to Mama ___ (Jenifer Lewis role in "The Princess and the Frog”) recently published in Daily Celebrity on 8 September 2020? The material on this site may not be reproduced, distributed, transmitted, cached, or otherwise used, except with the prior written permission of Inside the Magic. I can’t quite recall. If it was a white girl instead of the black girl, people would be complaining that it's another white princess story, and that there's a -white- princess in a setting that is filled with black characters. Even tho she had a very privileged life she never was mean or hateful. Most kids, when they grow up, tend to find out all the hidden messages Disney puts into their films. From my viewing of the trailer, without knowing much else about the film, I think she's really reaching. (The fact that this was considered Eleanor's problem to deal with is interesting in and of itself.). Find something that matters to complain about. ***SPOILERISH OVER***, - The parental race/gender roles: When I watched the movie, both parents seemed equally nurturing and inspirational, but I suspect that they get those labels because the mother is alive throughout the whole film - so she remains a nurturing force, while the father serves as an inspiring memory. I'm more concerned with how voodoo, more appropriately called Vodun, will be portrayed. Disney is sending a positive message to not [...]. Retrieved November 19, 2020, from https://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/08/27/race-and-gender-in-the-princess-and-the-frog/ […], […] Pages, T. (n.d.). Mama Odie is a well-known woman throughout the bayou; Louis the Alligator refers to her as the \"Voodoo Queen of the Bayou\". It sends the message that race is not an issue and not something to be inhibited by. She challenges Tiana and Naveen to 'dig deeper' in themselves and uses the same advice on all the individuals that seek her out, looking for a 'better' life via magic . Princess and the Frog came along in 2010 and secured its place alongside the other Disney princess films. She’s so unique in the fact that she is both spoiled and wealthy but not evil in any way. The easily distracted, zany grandparent archetype would be excellent for meet and greets as well since she could give “interesting” advice about how to continue your day while in the parks. I'm not too bothered by those screenshots you posted above. Should Disney include these characters within the attraction? It was my 3 1/2 year old daughter. These two are incredibly fun characters that are full of energy. The kindly old voodoo priestess is eccentric and spunky, but also a fantastic sage, more than willing to give out advice in her own creative ways to those in need. Which, I'm pretty sure, is one of the most renowned centers for cuisine in America. Lewis has made several contributions to Disney. my reaction was like "oh I have never seen a african american princess in a disney movie before; this movie seems like it would be great to watch.". Which leads to the ultimate issue. Mama Odie’s blindness is used for comedic purposes. Wasn't Jasmine a black Disney princess? He clearly had a fake one because his words weren't slurred enough in a rough manner. I love Lottie for all those reasons too. Over 1,000 Pieces of Disney History Featured in Virtual Auction. And in 1930's Southern America, there were more black people than anywhere else in the country, and one of the commonest jobs for black people at that time was in the service industry. This article is a demonstration of why a modern Disney animated film dealing with African Americans in a positive light is a difficult thing. LOL. The movie takes place in New Orleans where the culture is rich and people talk a little different! In other words, 100% of Disney black princesses are maids, and spend the movie as a green frog. Jun 27, 2013 - Mama Odie is a supporting character in Disney's 2009 animated feature film, The Princess and the Frog. One of the many reasons I love their friendship. Depicting Cinderella as a maid doesn’t play into pre-existing stereotypes of White women; it’s just an individual portrayal. That fly didn't have a Cajun accent. We’ve seen Disney films with non-White protagonists before–“Mulan” and “Pocahontas,” for instance–but to my knowledge there haven’t been any with a Black main character, unless I guess you count the Uncle Remus stuff, and that’s just a whole lot of ick. She is voiced by Jenifer Lewis who played Flo in Cars. Walt Disney Animation Studios presents the musical THE PRINCESS AND THE FROG, an animated comedy set in the great city of New Orleans. “Good to see you again, Ray. Anyway, I think gwen is to stuck in his/hers own mindset and preconcived notions to see otherwise and the lot of you supporting this view is just as bad. It's a secret thing that Cajuns are modest and don't appear much but are actually smart and resourceful. Let's wait until the film is out before we determine if there are any high crimes, but we might be well advised to not attack all perceived misdemeanors. ITM now consists of multiple writers living near both Disneyland and Walt Disney World theme parks and around the world. She gets upset at this and later those racist characters get a mild comeuppance (mild because it's Disney, so, you know.). Animation is limited in its means of depicting reality, and it must rely on certain levels of abstraction. The easily distracted, zany grandparent archetype would be excellent for meet and greets as well since she could give “interesting” advice about how to continue your day while in the parks. I love that little lightening bug.”. Here are Tiana’s parents; note that her mother is “nurturing” while her father is “inspirational”: Dr. Facilier is a “witch doctor,” practices voodoo, and looks a bit like cartoonish images of pimps I’ve seen now and then: I did notice that the valet (is that the same as a butler?) The African American community does not find humor in it nor do they like being considered a joke. It is simply a means of communicating a fuller idea through a simpler form of description. ", ... Hah. Which would make her goal to become a great professional in her field by diligence, hard work, and prudence. In New Orleans. For example, its easier to depict a person as evil by making them have a mean looking face, or as slow by making them appear fat. The Princess and the Frog (2009) Mama Odie Extended clip for The Princess and the Frog courtesy of MySpace . I love her and Tiana! That Fantasia had some elements of racism in it is to be expected. Stop playing the race card!" Inside the Magic was created in 2005. The Princess and the Frog is a 2009 Disney animated feature set inNew Orleans, Louisiana. Charlotte is one of my favorite side characters in the film. In 1912 New Orleans a seamstress, Eudora, is reading the story of The Frog Prince to her daughter, Tiana, and her friend, Charlotte La Bouff. I wonder why the setting couldn't be in "a land far away" or some fictional place. She could also carry around her special wand as well, similarly to the Fairy Godmother and grant her own special wishes for kids. Now that we finally have our one black princess, it's dissapointing because it seems they still haven't managed to break those stereotypes; plus it seems they will be hiding her ethnicity behind the exterior of a green frog for the majority of the movie. One of the many reasons I love their friendship. I wonder why Tiena being now a chef is offensive? It's a lot like Buffy - in which witches were presented as being capable of good and capable of bad. I didn’t realize when I found a link to the trailer after the original link disappeared that it had been changed to leave out some things I found odd in the first one. Still a definite downturn. Get over yourself. We focus on bringing you all things fun so you can plan your theme park vacation, enjoy Disney at home, and more. Mama Odie met Yogi … 1 Background 1.1 Personality 1.2 Powers and abilities … When you wish upon a star… Image courtesy of Huffington Post This entry was posted in [...], [...] time I refused to watch it because I was under the biased assumption that it looked extremely racist. Maybe. If Disney came out with a new animated film with a white princess protagonist, the complaint would be that she's white. But of course, an image of a Black woman as a maid carries different connotations than that of a White woman doing the same job. "For the record, the protagonist is only African American for part of the movie; for a good chunk of it she’s a green frog. This one film was more racist than all the other Disney movies combined. Mama Odie is an eccentric, humorous, and kindly voodoo priestess who despite having great power, encourages people to “dig deeper” and doesn’t use her power to grant wishes. Disney Reportedly Considers Petition for Actor’s Return! I think the question we need to be asking isn't if this role would be offensive if we switched her out with a white person; rather the question is why can't we find black Disney characters in this genre that aren't stereotypes? While many people have eagerly awaited “The Princess and the Frog,” Disney’s long history of negative or stereotypical portrayals of non-White characters (i.e., “Fantasia“) meant many were concerned about what the final product might be, expressing concerns based on the trailer and other promotional materials that have emerged so far. Tiana (Anika Noni Rose) and Prince Naveen (Bruno Campos) meet Mama Odie (Jenifer Lewis). A Black character cast as a maid, to many people, reproduces an image of Black women that goes beyond the individual–whether the creators intend to or not, such images bring with them associations to the Mammy character and real oppression of African American women in a culture that saw them primarily as servants for more privileged groups. Who Will Disney Include in the ‘Princess and the Frog’ Retheme? A southern black woman suggested using hot sauce! Also, why on earth are you offended by "nurturing mother and inspirational father"? And there’s nothing wrong with playing jazz or, for that matter, practicing voodoo (which could be seen as very similar to the magic that is so common in kids’ films). Is there anyting to be said about the stereotype of the libidinous french 'frog' character? The Disney company has already distributed dozens of items that have either a single princess, three princesses, or six princesses. Now we do. While I have zero clue as to wether or not these two will be making an appearance in the parks in any way, (Charlotte is part of a show on Disney Cruise Line) it would really be wonderful to see these amazing characters brought to life in the parks. It's pretty much just a comical "Look, his butt suddenly got really big!" She could also carry around her special wand as well, similarly to the Fairy Godmother and grant her own special wishes for kids. Voodoo is too often associated with black magic and evil, when in Haiti and in New Orleans (and elsewhere by other names) it is a legitimate religion and a strong part of many people's spiritual lives - and not as a way to do others harm. She compliments Tiana perfectly despite the two having almost no similarities and being from completely different backgrounds. Disney has a long, long history of racism. - The big butt: I was pretty weirded out by that scene when I initially saw it in trailers, too, but in context it makes sense and isn't racist at all. It’s free content, people, and this is the first week of classes. This apparently made the Washington establishment very uncomfortable, Washington being considered a thoroughly southern city; eventually, Eleanor was told in no uncertain terms that she had to hire black servants, because having white servants would undermine the racial heirarchy. in all their movies. I'm not a fan of the Princess genre in general, but I hope, for the sake of all the little black girls that never get to see themselves as the protagonist of a Disney film, that the film isn't super problematic. There should be more of these to come. Their “all over the place” energy would be perfect for interactions with children and adults by the new attraction. Race and Gender in “The Princess and the Frog” – Sociological Images. Did Disney recut the trailer, or was I imagining things? Eudora Tiana's mother, who is the best seamstress in all of New Orleans whose top client happens to be "Big Daddy" La Bouff. The calendars, of course, we at the three foot level so my daughter could see them. Gina Carano Claps Back With ‘Princess Bride’ Quote. 1930's Southern America is a fine place to explore all of those things, and I'm sure that when you see the film you'll find you have plenty to object to by virtue of all the racial problems that they will inevitably have to gloss over. One of those is the stereotypical image. You can typically find this Foodie looking for adventures in the great wide somewhere, dreaming of far off places or bringing a bit of faith, trust, and pixie dust to the table. Sounds like a pretty great role model for any young girl, whether she be black, white, yellow, red, orange, green, purple, or any other shade of the rainbow. ***SPOILERISH*** Tiana tries to buy some property, but is turned down because a woman "of her background" should, essentially, remember her place. Charlotte is one of my favorite side characters in the film. I would have to agree with you. One could easily say that portraying a black person in a lower class position is racist - but it's integral to the typical Disney story, of rising from the lowest possible point a la Aladdin to the highest possible point. My brain works better at putting together a coherent argument some days than others. Kids movies are the only thing redeeming about America, It just seems that Sarah is way off base with the reality of society. But if handled well, I think it'll be a far better contribution than if they'd merely pasted darker skin tones into one of the boring princess-in-a-vaguely-European-castle stories with no additional cultural context. ***SPOILER*** The valet acquires a spell that transforms him into the prince. Here’s Mama Odie, the godmother figure, is a “seer” with a snake: These images and objections are interesting by themselves, but they also bring up some of the difficulties in portraying groups that have historically been stereotyped negatively and occupied a subordinate social status. She became this way due to her father giving her everything as a child, but her ditzy, diva personality is something we all fell in love with despite her acting self centered most of the time. I think a lot of the stereotypical motifs that you're talking about are tied more to the film's region -- that is to say, New Orleans, the Bayou, the South, etc. A post shared by Philander Butler (@philanderc85) on Jul 31, 2020 at 3:40pm PDT. This is a double standard. This allows us to bring you the most interesting, entertaining, and unique entertainment experiences, covering theme parks, movies, TV, video games, special events and so much more. This is a huge change from what the attraction is now, as its current theme is controversial. But I think they're setting this "fairy-tale" to far forward in time to hit that particular time-span. So many childhood memories tainted as soon as I got old enough to think critically about what I was seeing on screen! For the record, the protagonist is only African American for part of the movie; for a good chunk of it she’s a green frog. The Dr Facilier character looks more like a Baron Samedi-inspired aesthetic than a pimp, to me. This movie's worth analyzing, but Gwen's commentary here is not among the most insightful I've read on this blog. These depictions still must be held up by further details in the story, but it's a useful tool none the less. There are very few ways to do it "right" but hundreds of ways to be perceived as doing it "wrong." Read more…, CC Attribution Non-Commercial Share Alike, Race and Gender in “The Princess and the Frog”. They NEED….BETTER have Ray in there!! Suffice it to say I never played that video for her again. The new attraction will showcase the lovable and popular Disney Princess Tiana as she and Louis prepare for their first-ever Mardi Gras performance. I find it amazing that you Sarah and white people as a whole can see the truth and make it appear in a way better suited and pleasing to you. Oh no! this floored me as the movie has been out for 3 yrs now..so i bought her a dress, im taking her to disney anyway and they;re gonna figure out how to make my beautiful little girl a tiana princess. Tiana is now very clearly a waitress, working hard and pinching pennies in order to one day own her own restaurant and become a top chef. And a SEEING EYE SNAKE? I have never seen The Princess and the Frog, but when I saw previews of this movie on t.v. …based on this trailer, the other things that Black people get to do are voodoo shit, playing jazz and dancing, and making jokes about their butts. I think it's her glasses... We've never had a black Disney princess before. Be happy for what you get! Most people don't believe that so Disney did do some good in that movie. “Ooh! Mama Odie has a pet snake named Juju. The characters are great, the animation is beautiful, the message/themes are motivational. Ray (short for Raymond) is a character from Disney's 2009 film The Princess and the Frog. Mama Odie is the good counterpart to Dr. Facilier: The clever, eccentric and smart 197-year-old, blind Queen of the Bayou tried to help Tiana and Naveen to … © 2005–2020 JAK Schmidt, Inc. All rights reserved. Or the creators may have unthinkingly reproduced stereotypes because, when thinking about characters to use in a movie set in New Orleans with a Black protagonist, they drew on existing cultural imagery. Suddenly Disney, of all companies, gives us a black protagonist. An eccentric, sunny, wise woman who has great power and does not use it to grant wishes. The noteworthy aspect of this film, aimed at a mainstream audience, is that the female protagonist is African American. Find something else to be angry about like world hunger!!!! On the note of black vs. white servants, I think the region of the U.S. was important to that question. We know Princess Tiana and Louis will be included as the ride will follow both of them on a musical adventure, but who else could we see along the way? […] Pages, T. (n.d.). I don't see anything particularly sexist or racist about this. There really aren't many black protagonists in t.v shows and movies of today. Related: Will Princess Tiana Be Human or Frog in Splash Mountain? I like Tiana, and I like the New Orleans setting. If there aren't any black people (or other people of color), they get upset because the minority isn't being represented. Of course race is part and parcel of that particular region, but things like voodoo, the fly that people seem to be taking so much objection to (who isn't necessarily black, and is in fact, most likely not a black stereotype, but a Cajun one -- which may be just as bad), the hot sauce and gumbo aspect of the video game, and even the idea of imagining the main character as a maid originally. But then, doesn’t the princess turn into an ogre in at least some of the “Shrek” movies? We've learned to be modest overtime so people would live us alone and let us go about our business, but anyway. I'm having trouble imagining a storyline that wouldn't in some way raise red flags for social critics. To answer your inquiry, there have been NO Black Disney princesses. "Inspirational," hard-working, cooking, magical black people with all the earthy, down-home answers to everything. Racism was quite common when it was released and not frowned upon as it is today. I'm not saying they have to sound like sunshine Susie, but give me some middle ground here... geez. What started as a tiny central Florida based website and short weekly podcast that provided our audience the opportunity to visit Walt Disney World virtually has grown to the publishing company it is today. Let us know in the comments below. Mama Odie is a supporting character in The Princess and the Frog. To address things point by point: - The hot sauce thing: I've never heard of liking hot sauce as being a black stereotype. I do think it is an interesting comparison seeing as we are talking about cultural stereotypes as well as issues of race. The blind seer Mama Odie reminds me of Minerva (played by Irma P. Hall) from "Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil". The Princess and the Frog (La princesa y el sapo en Hispanoamérica y Tiana y el sapo en España) es una película animada de Walt Disney Animation Studios, basada libremente en el libro La princesa rana, de E. D. Baker y a su misma vez en el cuento El príncipe rana de los Hermanos Grimm. Disneyland and Walt Disney World announced the retheme of Splash Mountain from. Like Latina princesses. Personally, I'm looking forward to this movie. There was no in between, there were no characters at all- just die-cut stereotypes. than it has to do with race itself. The comments kept coming in as some agreed with this Disney fan while others shared their own thoughts and “must have” character appearances — several rooting for our favorite little lightning bug, Ray! Why do the characters have to talk with a "black" dialect? The word is rude, mean and shouldnt be used in a movie that has young kids watching it. “You gotta have Ray Ray in there too,” one commenter wrote. She is one of the minor protagonists in Disney's 2009 film The Princess and the Frog, where she acts as the film's Fairy Godmother. The crossword clue 'Mama ___ (priestess in The Princess and the Frog)' published 1 time⁄s and has 1 unique answer⁄s on our system. They did this with Pocahontas and Mulan with mixed results----different cultures in Disney films are often shown as "old-fashioned" and somehow oppressing the protagonist, regardless of historical accuracy, but in the cases of the above two films they're telling stories of women who defied the accepted norm, so it has to be that way. This is not a derogatory term in animation. ***SPOILER OVER***. During the beginning of her musical number she waves about her version of a magic wand The people of New Orleans have a certain culture---jazz music and the practice of voodoo being part of it. Anyway, this should be an interesting situation to watch unfold when the movie is finally released. I'm sure my list of sterotypes will grow once I've seen it in it's entirety. But her big By which I mean: for much of the late 19th and 20th centuries, especially in the south, one of the most common economic niches for young African-American women was to serve as maids, because of the legacy of slavery and contemporary racist attitudes. And in my defense, it also turns out Disney has recut the trailer and some of the scenes that were in it when I first started writing up some commentary aren’t in it any more. Also, it's kind of funny that the preview begins with a blurb about 75 years of Disney tradition and only shows clips of the movies the company made in the 90s. #FireGinaCarano Goes Wild as Fans React to Capitol Riots, ‘The Mandalorian’: Gina Carano’s Cara Dune Could Be Recast or Removed Altogether, Disney+ to Reportedly Retcon ‘Star Wars’ Sequel Trilogy, Jon Favreau Reportedly Stops Disney From Firing ‘Mandalorian’ Star Gina Carano. If there's a black person anywhere, they get upset about any little perceived stereotype. 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